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“The Truth is Paywalled But the Lies Are Free”: Notes on why I hoard data

I came across a beautifully written [article](https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/08/the-truth-is-paywalled-but-the-lies-are-free) by Nathan J. Robinson about how quality work costs money to access and propaganda is freely given.

The article makes some good points on why it is important for data to be more free, which I will summarize below:

* 1) Nobody is allowed to build a giant free database of everything human beings have ever produced.

* 2) Copyright law can be an intensive restriction on the freedom of speech and determines what information you can (and not) share with others.

* 3) The concept of a public community library needs to evolve. As books, and other content move online, our communities have as well.

* 4) Human creativity and potential is phenomenally leashed when human knowledge is limited.

* 5) Free and affordable libraries/sources of wisdom are dying.

This got me thinking about why I care about hoarding data. Data is invaluable! A digital dark age is forming around us and we can do what we can to prevent it. A lot of people here will hoard data for personal reasons. I hoard data for others.

The things the people in this subreddit hoard whether it be movies, Youtube, pictures, news articles, websites, all of it is culture. Its history.

Even memes and social media are not crap. Even literal shit is valuable to a scatologist. Can you imagine if we were able to find the preserved excrement from a long extinct animal? What one sees as shit, is so much more to someone else who is trained and educated. Its data. The internet and social media around us is Art and Culture from our time. This is history for the future to use and learn.

Things go viral for a reason. The information shared in the jokes and content are snapshots of the public’s thinking and perspective on the world. Invaluable data for future scholars.

Imagine we found a Viking warship and on it was a perfectly preserved book of jokes. Sure many at the time might have thought they were shit jokes made at the expense of others. But we would learn so much about their customs, society, and the evolution of human civilization if this book was preserved and found. And the book’s contents were made available to the world.

Also a lot of political content is shared on social media and comment sections as well. Our understanding of politics will be carved up in units of memes, and shared on thousands of siloed paywalled platforms and mediums over time. And our role is to collect and consolidate them.

This is but a small sliver of the documentation of how our world is changing around us. And we can do our part to save and make free to others as much of it as we can.

P.S. Many reddit accounts unknowingly (like maybe yours) are being used by bots to vote for content. Please enable 2FA to stop this practice. [Instructions](https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043470031)

P.P.S. Summer of 2020 is time for contingency preparedness. There is no time to get started like the present. Buy your disks now to be prepared for when history needs you.

P.P.P.S. Thank you all for the support and discussion so far. You are some good folks! A song that I enjoy due to it relating to the importance preserving history is “Amnesia” by Dead Can Dance. It has a line in the song that I find quite chilling, “Can you really plan the future when you no longer have the past?”

P.P.P.P.S. Some people like to use the plural verb “data are” instead of the singular “data is” since data are used to refer to a collection. “The fish are being collected”. I merely mention this as a factoid in celebration of this discussion receiving so much attention.

P.P.P.P.P.S. Take a look at this [list of site-deaths](http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths
) to remind us of all the now dead sites that once existed.

P.P.P.P.P.P.S For further motivation, consider how: [Facebook is deleting evidence of war crimes](https://archive.today/Fx1md)

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  1. I think you might like this book: “The Crime of Reason: And the Closing of the Scientific Mind” by Robert B. Laughlin.

  2. > Can you imagine if we were able to find the preserved excrement from a long extinct animal?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolite

  3. I couldn’t agree more.
    A good example imo is this video someone posted on reddit not so long ago: [https://youtu.be/du5hoWqnrcE](https://youtu.be/du5hoWqnrcE)
    A lot of people might say it’s stupid and not even worth watching but I find it a very useful relic displaying youth culture around a certain time period.

  4. thats the most bullshit thing ive ever heard. isnt nyt like 1$ paywall?

  5. I really appreciate the idea of data hoarding. I’d personally like to see a vault where a lot of this data is stored in a protective faraday cage, for just in case.

    But personally, I feel like the only way this will ever become a useful movement is if there’s an organized coalition formed to make this easily and publically accessible, on a sustainable system. Much like libraries are right now.

    But do that, not in the future, but right now. This decade. The sooner the better. The infrastructure to handle something like that needs to be built and grown, not passed down for the next generation to make.

  6. Look up the story of Aaron Swartz and JStor for a compelling example as well.

  7. Not all propaganda is bad though “diversity is our strength” is very good for the development of humanity.

  8. This is a solid communist viewpoint. All the little barons plotting, conniving, back-stabbing and hoarding their tiny pieces of the puzzle of knowledge, happiness, and humanity only divides us and holds us all back from a greater existence. Just imagine what we could do if we ALL worked together.

  9. > 2) Copyright law is a intensive restriction on the freedom of speech

    I agree with the general tone of your post, but this is pretty dramatically wrong

  10. Libraries are not dying, at least not where I’m from, we have a thriving city and county library system that works very well.

  11. On two-factor authentication: yes you should use it, and you can go to your profile page, click “upvoted by” and verify that your upvotes are your own.

  12. Thank you for your concern. Data quality and data rights are two contemporary issues. Proper artificial intelligence would help in terms of data quality. Intelligence ought to be free and accessible, like potable water.

  13. In principle, you or I could build a library to rival the NYPL or Oxford’s library. If you could have a copy of one of those, for your family and friends to use… close and convenient. Instant online access. Why wouldn’t you?

    Would you let some shitty bought-with-bribes law stop you, a law that’s rarely enforced anyway?

  14. As the saying goes “If you’re not paying for it, YOU are the product.” This applies to information, too.

  15. This inspired me, I’m sure it’s already a thing, but I would love to host a just massive meme archive with them properly tagged/named

  16. > Even literal shit is valuable to a scatologist.

    This was my exact thought when I saw a torrent for 18000 doge memes on 4chan today.

  17. Keeping people well educated and critical is essential. I’ve seen so much misinformation online being tossed around as fact. I’m guilty of it myself. But all of that is fixable if people can freely research. I think the biggest threats to freedom of speech are the preservation of IP and the ability to manipulate search engine results. It may be profitable to follow trends… But that comes with consequences. We may need to limit targeted search results for certain bipartisan topics. Maybe the act of trying to do so will only further inflate certain issues. It’s a very disfunctional can of worms to open.

  18. P.S: It’s P.P.S, P.P.P.S … P.{n}.S

    P.S stands for post script.

  19. I wish this sub had a list of torrents or data that should be distributed.

  20. For PACER they don’t bother to bill you if the billable amount ends up being below a certain point. At least that was how it was for me at the time I used it.

  21. I have a question about services like Apple News+ which is a $9.99 a month to access places like the Washington post and the New Yorker. Are there other services out there like this that compete with it?

    Is there even a higher level of news behind more paywalls after that subscription too?

  22. The advent of PBS Passport is something that truly saddens me. I used to be able to send an interested friend a link to a quality deep dive on almost any topic and now that majority of content is behind a paywall.

  23. I never thought of things quite like this. Thank you for your explanation and your work.

    I’m wrestling with copyright ideas as I learn to compose/produce music. If I ever put my work out there, I plan to use donation pricing.

    At the same time, that a grey area of abandonware exists, particularly for old computer games, is irritating as a consumer. There’s no one willing to take my money so I can’t have it?

    Has anyone heard of a standard way to waive distribution royalties in the event a work is not available from any vendor?

  24. I‘m an archivist and I was enthusiastic about finding this community because what you do is very close to what archivists have been doing for a long time, but applied to the internet.

    We should always be asking if our data retention strategies are useful for the long term future and how we can archive even more types of data. You mention old versions of linux kernel which is a great example. Maybe scholars looking through data archives later will be able to reconstruct history as nobody can see it now, bird‘s eye view so to say. For this especially we need a focus on the archive aspect: how to keep data for a very very ling time

  25. I’ve still got the first eleven years of junk mail I received. The first one is dated 25 May 1995, about a year after the first spam appeared on usenet. It was the first junk email any of us had seen. I had to stop collecting in 2006 because the volume was too high to keep up. I have no idea what to do with this collection but I’m going to hang on to it.

  26. Copyright laws are very annoying, I understand that they want to make money and protect their work, but having to wait 100 years for something to become public domin is obsurd. By that time most things would be missing unless someone tried to preserve it or it was lucky enough to get republished. In ideal world I would say 10 or 15 years should be the limit as by then the original creator should already recieve the profits from their work (I’m just spitballing numbers, idk what would be a good timeframe). Or even 25 or 50 years, anything less than having to wait a whole century, especially nowadays where new media is getting pumped out everyday.

  27. I perfectly understand people hoarding data *for others*, but I am not sure how and when you plan to give others access to that data. Do you have any particular plan?

    I personally have just started my data hoarding journey by buying my first external drive a couple of weeks ago and reading your post made me think that I would like to take meme archiving more seriously. I have already backed up my *”dank collection”* of 1.6k images, but those are the only ones I have manually saved. I guess I should look into scraping some subreddits for images.

  28. Yes! A bunch of information from the CAA is behind paywalls. In order to access certain aviation related laws in the UK, you must pay a government organisation £20 for a pdf. To read the law.

  29. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive

    Seems there are places trying to do just what you ask for.

    Still archives must be mirrored all around the world.

  30. This is exactly why I’ve been archiving TikTok posts. I’ve seen the recent threads here about it with so many people saying things like “it’s just trash, why would I want that?” They’re partly right. It’s a lot of trash. But for a lot of people, it’s going to be their history. It’s a great reflection of art and culture in 2019-2020, and AFAIK nobody else really cares.

    60+TB and 14million+ posts archived so far. It’s actually getting a bit unwieldy to manage this project.

    Edit: Typo

  31. Very well put. I knew there was a good reason I have 10TB of *linux isos*. It’s for the betterment of humanity! In all seriousness though, that’s a great point, propaganda distributed freely, but quality work (like good journalism) costs money.