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Is Email the best repository to archive personal memories for 18 years?

Is Email the best repository to archive personal memories for 18 years?

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  1. Thanks, mom, for donating my childhood memories to an advertisement company so they can sell and trade it like a commodity.

  2. I had 1TB in a cloud, once.

    It was an one-time offer from an email hoster, and I jumped in.

    They said they changed a ToS and according to new ToS, they could freeze any cloud account that was unused for 3m long. In the letter, where they acking me about it, they said, no worry, just click on the link whenever you want your cloud back.

    So I pressed on the link 6m later and got an error. When I asked the support, they said, there was another ToS change, where they allow themselves to delete any frozen cloud, which was not ordered back to life in 3m after being frozen, but because my account was already frozen so I don’t get any letters about the ToS changing.

    They deleted it.

    Because they could.

    It was a hard lesson.

    Any data in one copy in any cloud = it’s lost data.

  3. I did this. It worked great. The spam didn’t start until they started using the emails. Even then was pretty easy to filter by Mom and Dad.

    I’ve recently exported everything to store more properly for posterity

  4. This was a cute idea when it was a gmail commercial…

  5. Also make an embarrassing moments page to hold over them when they become shitty teenagers.

  6. Hell no. Same as people who use Instagram or Facebook to archive personal memories

  7. Yeah, feed that metadata, data and everything before a person can even decide whether to share that amount of it, or not. Sure, the kid will be thankful for this later.

  8. Mails moved to spam amd have been automatically deleted, because one mail adress sents maila without end

  9. Not really… Gmail only has like 2gb of storage for all of it

  10. If you have your own server and backup appropriately why not?

  11. These oversimplifications that ask about service or product or product type X for archival over Y years (usually in the tens, but sometimes in the hundreds) are completely useless.

    Holding on to your data **is a process, not a product**. All these discussions are creating a lot of artificial controversy in nitpicking over the details, oh but gmail never deleted accounts, oh but flash can lose data even in as low as two weeks if hold un-powered at 60C (how can that happen, at least on this planet?), oh hard drives will die in 6 months if un-powered.

    It doesn’t matter that much if you’re using cloud services, spinning rust, flash, tape, shiny disks “guaranteed and tested” (no joke) for hundreds of years. **If you’re doing it wrong you can lose all your data even if you’re paying Amazon to keep it at 99.99999999999999% reliability or you can still have it safely even if you’re using floppies.**

  12. That is a really bad idea.

    Technological progress, trends and the economy are moving way too fast for this.

    The company providing the email can go out of business or decide it’s not profitable anymore. People can just loose interest in email and it could fade away. In two decades we could be using something like instant-hologram-quantum-entanglement-communcation or whatever. Who knows what the future holds. That sounds more like a gamble, than a sweet wholesome idea.

    You will probably end up downloading all the data and archive it some other way before the time comes.

    Think about how the world changed in the last 20 years.

  13. Google has lots of money. At some point if enough people do it they have reason to apply a fee, limit bandwidth, access et cetera. We are the product though.

    Also, what if the worst happens and the economy tanks, google loses all of their money in bills or something, they don’t turn a profit. Then they close their doors?

    Or God forbid, a trial come in some form. Wouldn’t you want the evidence in physical form? To caress and to hold.

    What if he has a freakout thinking he is an eternal ageless being without memories or history?

    ^^^^afewstraythoughts

  14. Yahoo deletes inactive emails, not sure about other hosts.

  15. I’m missing gmail from pre 2008 or so

    I don’t know if I deleted them or they were automatically removed

  16. Last thing I’d have wanted to do on my 18th birthday would have been sort through a few thousand emails my mom sent me for the last 18 years. I don’t care about my first tooth, first day of school, etc. Those are “precious memories” to parents, but not to children. I know the memories I have of my son’s milestones mean a lot to me, but he couldn’t care less. And, it’s the same with my own own milestones. My mother probably feels the memory of my first day of school is a precious thing, but as an adult I just don’t care about the day I started school.

    My most important memories of childhood are times I spent with my friends, times my parents weren’t around to see. The good times with the boys, the first drink, first time seeing a Playboy, first kiss, etc.

  17. hopefully they logged into it every once in a while to make sure it was working right… free emails back 10yrs ago had an unspoken rule that you had to login at a minimum every 6mos…that would suck to send stuff to an email for 18years, then realize it was quarantined 17.5years ago and lose everything

  18. Don’t most online email address get wiped after 6 months with no sign in?

    Edit: For the numpty that downvoted my question:

    “A Yahoo account is automatically declared inactive and deactivated after a minimum of six months have passed since the last time the account owner logged in. … For example, if you’ve had a Yahoo account for two years, you need to log in at least once every ten months to keep it from being deactivated.”

    “Per the Gmail Program Policies (since revised), a Gmail account was deleted by Google and the username became unavailable after nine months of inactivity. Logging in to the Gmail web interface counted as activity, as did accessing the account from another email account”

    “To keep your Outlook.com account active you must sign in to the account at least once every 365 days. After 365 days of inactivity, your email will be deleted and cannot be recovered. After 5 years of inactivity, your Microsoft account will be deleted and cannot be recovered.”

  19. Serious question – does anyone know of a service that is set up as a functional “family data archive”? It’s been an idea I’ve recently been kicking around essentially to help replace/supplement the family genealogist/that one member who hoards and organizes all the old photos, videos and records concept. Affordable closed group storage where multiple members can contribute or allow auto-scrapes of selected posted content.

    I know a lot of this can be done manually and I am even doing some of it, but having some type of opt-in automation framework for selective accounts/files would enable it to scale.

  20. No, it’s kind of ludicrous, really.

    At this moment, the *only* e-mail services that I can think of that have survived 18 years are AOL (part of Verizon), and Yahoo (also part of Verizon). Both of those are basically imploding…

    Gmail has existed for ~15 years, but only out of “beta” for 10 or so… [Besides, Google has *tons* of blood on their hands](https://killedbygoogle.com/). Trusting *them* long term is just asking for tears.

    Hell, even Email retrieval itself has gone from POP3/SMTP to IMAP, to IMAPS.. who knows what the future will bring….

    What a friend’s parents did (albeit 3-4 decades ago) was create physical photo albums, organizing them by year, putting notes under each photo explaining what was going on, and WHO was in the photo (memories suck, you’re going to forget people)

    If I was going to do something like this, I’d probably store the information on redundant hard drives (like a Drobo or something), making sure to swap them at *least* every four years, organizing the folders by year, then maybe by month, and making sure there is an HTML file for every image, explaining what’s going on. That’s not even getting into off-site backups…. floods, fires, and general calamities happen.

    Then there’s the question of whether or not they’ll actually *care*. When I graduated High School, I received my “mythical Permanent Record”… spent like 30 minutes flipping through it… not remembering most of it.. and then threw it out.

  21. It’s a sweet idea, but I would use Dropbox over email just cause it’s so much easier, and you can better organize these memories in folders too.

  22. Better than plastering their kids face all over social media sites for them to catalogue their entire existence, add them to facial recognition profiles, and create Shadow profiles of without their consent or knowledge.

  23. You dont remember the Google super bowl commercial Dear Sophie?

  24. Depends on which provider you send them to I guess. Had the contents of my ancient hotmail account deleted at random for no reason (not inactivity) and could’ve lost a ton of sentimental stuff had I not backed it up

  25. If you’re using a public email service it might make sense to get the username years before you need it.

  26. cute thought, but the sarcastic side of me thinks about that poor kid having to wade through 18 years of spam email messages to view those precious memories…

  27. > Is Email the best repository to archive personal memories for 18 years?

    Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have it backuped. (remember to use https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout) I think it’s a good idea, with google photos and all.