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If you can’t find what you saved, there is no point to any of this.

I’m completing my taxes (US). To e-file, the IRS requires you to know last year’s adjusted gross income, which is on your tax return. Just find line 8b on last year’s return. Simple right?

Not if you are a poorly organized, paranoid hoarder who tends to hide things from themselves.

My 2019 taxes were not on either NAS. I checked the drive image from the machine I performed it on. Nothing. I searched the email address I filed it with. Nothing. I couldn’t find the PDF. I couldn’t find the .tax2019 file I know I saved. I couldn’t find any evidence, anywhere, on any of my systems that I had even done my taxes in 2019 or 2018.

Part of the problem is my propensity to over-encrypt things. If you create an encrypted file container, you can’t search the contents. Depending on how you set it up, you can barely detect it from a regular file. In fact, IIRC, the file container itself won’t even show as “modified” the date you open it.

All I remembered was that I knew I saved them in a GDrive folder, but using the web interface, I was getting nowhere. I needed a way to see the entire contents of my GDrive folder on my desktop – until this point I had never heard of Google Takeout.

Once I downloaded the contents of the folder, I started digging through what was in there, and then I found something only 2019 me would do.

I found a 200mb pptx file. I don’t think I have ever even opened a 200mb pptx file in my life. Sure enough, I plugged it into Veracrypt, opened right up, and there was all of my tax data for 2018 and 2019. AGI was right on line 8b.

If you’ve kept with me this far, the lesson here is that file organization, and definitely file encryption, is a message to your future self. If you cannot organize and access your data reliably, it really serves no purpose.

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  1. A similar thing happened to me a couple years ago. My parents buy tax software each year and my sister and I use it to do our returns. My parents had an unfortunate bout of luck and lost *THREE* laptop hard drives in a single year. Sudden catastrophic HDD failure without any of the obvious reasons (impact/water/etc.). Of course, this being my parents, they hadn’t followed their own data management scheme and there weren’t any recent backups on their external HDD *that was specifically meant for that purpose.*

    We lost the tax files and had to order transcripts from the IRS. Following that incident, I have redundant copies of EVERYTHING on my own NAS.

  2. One of the only usable and legible post on this sub, others are just people showing their hard disks

  3. I have 5 or so “original” passwords. My encrypted file names end in the password like Finance-45 means that you use passwords 4 and 5 to open the file.

    My passwords all have the same pattern of letters and numbers, but they’re random, and I got the first one 20 years ago, so they’re all memorized. I also wrote them down and put them in a book that I told my family about.

    If someone has the 5 original passwords then they can open the files, which is probably what I want anyway.

    My system is kind of broken currently because of reasons but I plan to restore it over the years again. I want people to open the files if I’m unable. But I don’t provide one key for things nobody needs to see.

  4. Shout-out to [Recoll](https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/). Powerful search engine for your local data.

    Wouldn’t have helped here since the encryption layer would have hidden it, but I’ve been using it for a while and LOVE it!!

    (From their site, “Recoll will index an MS-Word document stored as an attachment to an e-mail message inside a Thunderbird folder archived in a Zip file (and more…). It will also help you search for it with a friendly and powerful interface, and let you open a copy of a PDF at the right page with two clicks. There is little that will remain hidden on your disk.”)

    I’m running it in a container that read-only mounts the shares I want indexed.

  5. For me the same problem, I have is much stuff in so many drives, I just install everything to find stuff.

  6. I lost 160 bitcoins to drive encryption. Forgot the password. Since then I’ve realized I don’t store anything worth encrypting other than my work laptop and it’s backup. No more drive or disk image encryption for me.

  7. It’s hard to find good lit on this, too. Lots of people post tutorials for using FreeNAS, but no one posts tutorials on how to organize your data once you have one.

  8. I have gone through several organizational methodologies over the last 25 years and I truly believe it is something that becomes refined and perhaps even ages with you. I look back to some of the things I was doing just five years ago and I shake my head that I didn’t think of some very simple schemes.

  9. You sound like college/high school me. Thinking I was so clever hiding my “important” documents in encrypted and obfuscated files.

    Unfortunately for me I’ve now forgotten both the password and the location of said files.

    They’re so secure I can’t access them.

  10. This story hits close to home.

    We know how we hoard things, but how does everyone ORGANIZE those things?

  11. Does anyone know of a program that lets you index and search offline backups?

    for example id like to be able to keep an index on my desktop that includes all the metadata from files on my NAS, external hardrives, etc. So that i can do a simple search to determine which drive the file i want is stored at, so i don’t have to plug in each external drive in turn to scan it.

  12. Semi-on-topic, you can log on to [irs.gov](https://irs.gov) and download your tax transcripts from previous years, which would have the information you need.

  13. I have 480TB indexed in a digital catalog which I can easily search.
    Software scans every external and stores the results.
    I am able to scan and pull a needed file in less than 5 minutes.
    All local, no cloud bullshit or net connection needed.
    Scan takes a minute or two, the hit identifies the external.
    Search, pull, mount, copy, unmount, done.

  14. *Looks at his tax documents stored in K:BackupsBackups3-3-2020-Full-BackupDocumentsTax Documents*

  15. Sounds like you just need to get yourself organized. I have EVERYTHING on my server, and then I have Duplicati that sync’s my irreplaceable files to Backblaze, Google Drive, and an external 8tb HDD. The 8tb HDD tends to have a LOT of extra stuff backed up, but it’s also much cheaper.

    That said, I definitely do have a “backups” folder, which is the abyss. Nothing truly IMPORTANT lives there and I should probably just delete it…

  16. Well yea, if you don’t categorize and sort then why are you even saving things?

  17. This is why I love google photoes and icloud photoes.

    Simply search for “human” “cat” “mauntain” “summer” “lake” “location” whatever and find that your looking for. Storing photoes in folders never archive the same result.

  18. >Part of the problem is my propensity to over-encrypt things. If you create an encrypted file container, you can’t search the contents. Depending on how you set it up, you can barely detect it from a regular file. In fact, IIRC, the file container itself won’t even show as “modified” the date you open it.

    If you’re really this paranoid about your data, you need to take it offline. LAN only.

  19. Exactly why I don’t encrypt and password protect my stuff. I value retrieving my stuff more than security when in times of drive failure or any other disaster. Pointless to have the strongest door in the world if you can’t access the vault. While I might not want people to see my stuff, it’s really worthless at the end of the day and hackers can’t do shit with it anyway. Most people aren’t even worth hacking anyway and you’re just making things harder on yourselves with such tight security.

  20. My method is keeping all the personally identifying information and keys in a dot directory, then only syncing dot directories explicitly to local backups.

  21. I just store data like that in a Nextcloud folder structure. No shenanigans, no extra encryption etc. I know where all that stuff is supposed to be and chances that someone cracks my Nextcloud, while not zero, is not high. Obviously, there are backups.

  22. Why encrypt anything on a home server? If you die, do you not want your kids or wife to have your photos? Ok what about music and videos? I would encrypt a very limited set of things tbh

  23. Maybe I’m missing something here, but isn’t the Gdrive folder on your PC in sync with the online one at all times, should you choose to have it so?

  24. If tax returns are datahording I’m off here NOW

    God thanks I live in a mature country who had eID for 15 years

  25. The older I get the more I realize I must do things less and less cleverly, because future me is not as smart as today me and will have forgotten half of what today me has mentally noted is “vital”.

  26. All my really important shit goes in google drive, everything else goes on my server.

  27. …yeah I don’t store personal documents on my DAS/NAS. That goes on my boot drive (encrypted) and gets encrypted at backed up. I keep my general hoarding data separate from personal documents.

  28. My tax documents are stored in…

    /Documents/Taxes/Lastname, Firstname/2020

    I do it with my name in there, in case I ever need a second (my daughter gets a burgerflipper job at 16, my wife goes back to work, whatever).

    I think I have them going back to 2011 or so.

    > Part of the problem is my propensity to over-encrypt things. If you create an encrypted file container,

    Tax documents are sensitive, containing pretty much everything anyone would need for identity theft… but this is also on my home network. I have no fear of local exploitation… the assholes would already be in my house, they can just grab my wallet. Remote exploitation is a real concern, but I find it slightly ironic that would consist of the attackers *encrypting those same files*.

    If that’s the case, then how am I doing myself any favors by doing their job for them?

  29. poorly organized files is just another layer of security.

  30. Why couldn’t you just use LUKS? then you can deactivate the crypt block device when ur not using it.

  31. If you use Windows, I highly recommend [Everything](https://www.voidtools.com/). It can find anything within a fraction of a second.

  32. Honestly, there are two types of secure data. The stuff that you want to protected but are not worried about people know where it’s stored. The stuff that you want to protect and don’t want people to know it even exists.

    IMO taxes, health records, etc are perfectly fine to secure but not hide. Create veracrypt files, put them on OneDrive, Google drive, Dropbox, whatever and name them so you can easily identify what’s in it.

  33. My personal motto: data without good organization is inherently worthless

  34. Sensitive folder on my bitlocker-ed C drive, cryptsync to my unencrypted Storage space. Syncthing to my off-site rpi with file versioning.

  35. This is why making yourself a directory is very important for some stuff.

    I even do this in my notebooks. I’d suggest dokuwiki. Keep track of certain files as well as the network itself.

  36. I usually use Everything. Quick index search by filetype/size/date/name across all drives. Pretty good stuff.

  37. Why in Turing’s name would you have your online data encrypted? (I don’t mean “encrypted at rest”)

    My taxes are stored locally and backed up encrypted. I can click on a folder on my server and go back to 1994 and look at my returns. If yours are in an encrypted and obfuscated file in the cloud, you don’t need disk space or a storage strategy, you need _a therapist_.

    And if you have a therapist, this should be a topic for your next session.

  38. There is a seesaw of balance between security and usability.

    You have to take the threat model into mind. Who is potentially targeting you.

    If it is a state agent, you got some serious worries and need a very different set up than the average Joe worried about some ransomware or a virus.

    Everyone wants to be “totally secure”. But for even most advanced users can be fine with a NAT firewall, an anti virus and smart browsing hygiene.

    Add in offsite backups as a loss compensation and you’re pretty much good to go.

    Edit: use whole drive encryption, for post drive use security.

  39. I gave up on cloud stored encrypted containers and (for the not so sensitive files) because I have shitty internet.

    Retrieving a particular file is basically downloading the entire haystack to find the needle.

  40. I have found that Keybase provides a good compromise here. Your files are encrypted, but you can mount it to search, or view it directly in the app.

  41. I place all my tax documents into encrypted 7zip archives, and store them in Google drive, with the keys stored in my password manager

  42. Yeah, it can be problematic. I only created one single encrypted folder/container and anything that may contain sensitive info like social security number or tax info go in there. Otherwise like you found out, it can be a pain in the ass to find what you want. That is my biggest fear is not accessing the info I need the most by losing/forgetting password or corrupting my encrypted container.