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Maaşınız yerine TIPS hakkında 1 şikayet daha görürsem hepinize biraz akıl vermeye başlayacağım.

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Bu insanlar neden para aldıkları işi yaptıkları için onlara para bağışlamıyorlar diye şikayet etme cüretini gösterirler.

Ücretinizden şikayet edin, bağışlarınızdan değil.

Edit: Bana öyle geliyor ki, şirket şilinleri bu denizaltıyı kuşatıyor. Modlar bile artık saatte 4 dolar ödeyen ve hatta aşağı oylara gömülmelerine izin vermek yerine fikirlerini yapışkan hale getiren işletmeleri savunuyorlar.

Nasıl oluyor da biri bahşişi savunuyor ve bir şilin ya da bot yalayıcısı değil de beni aşıyor.

BENIMLE SÖYLE: SUNUCULAR, YABANCıLARıN BAĞıŞı OLMADAN SAYGıN BIR YAŞAM SÜREBILMEK IÇIN DAHA FAZLA PARA ALMALı.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/qiyqp6/why_tipping_is_banned_in_several_places/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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  1. These comments are probably paid shill accounts there is no other way this makes sense, how on earth would people complain about the tips they get BEFORE complaining about their $2/h wage lol

    These comments are probably paid shill accounts there is no other way this makes sense, how on earth would people complain about the tips they get BEFORE complaining about their $2/h wage lol

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  2. I get where this is coming from but being condescending towards the wage slave makes you seem like a dick Phrase it more like, ‘it’s bullshit I have to pay your wage because the evil corporation is so cheap and evil’ Same sentence but sounds much better

    I get where this is coming from but being condescending towards the wage slave makes you seem like a dick

    Phrase it more like, ‘it’s bullshit I have to pay your wage because the evil corporation is so cheap and evil’

    Same sentence but sounds much better

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  3. Lmao reading some of these comments it’s almost like ppl prefer to make $2/hr and begging for tips they feel entitled too. Honestly good job corporate America convincing ppl that servers don’t deserve a living wage.

    Lmao reading some of these comments it’s almost like ppl prefer to make $2/hr and begging for tips they feel entitled too.

    Honestly good job corporate America convincing ppl that servers don’t deserve a living wage.

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  4. I think OP's point (and if I'm misinterpreting it, OP, please clarify) is that we've seen a few complaints from restaurant workers about getting low tips. But OP feels these people's frustration with their customers is misdirected—they should be angry at their employer instead, for forcing them to rDevamını oku

    I think OP’s point (and if I’m misinterpreting it, OP, please clarify) is that we’ve seen a few complaints from restaurant workers about getting low tips. But OP feels these people’s frustration with their customers is misdirected—they should be angry at their employer instead, for forcing them to rely on what are essentially donations.

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  5. You’re right. Y’all should be mad it says $4/hr on your paychecks instead.

    You’re right. Y’all should be mad it says $4/hr on your paychecks instead.

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  6. Exactly. Tips pay the employers, not the employee. Imagine living in a country where an employer only has to pay his employee 2 dollars and hour and the customer gets the money guilt raped out of them to make up the difference.

    Exactly. Tips pay the employers, not the employee. Imagine living in a country where an employer only has to pay his employee 2 dollars and hour and the customer gets the money guilt raped out of them to make up the difference.

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  7. For me IDK what the service is. I’m not giving 20% for a take out order.

    For me IDK what the service is. I’m not giving 20% for a take out order.

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  8. Why shouldn't they complain? They make a pitiful hourly wage and we know that's not going to change anytime soon. We also all know that tips are an expected part of certain industries. You think you're sticking it to a corporation by not tipping, but what you're actually doing is fucking over a workDevamını oku

    Why shouldn’t they complain? They make a pitiful hourly wage and we know that’s not going to change anytime soon. We also all know that tips are an expected part of certain industries. You think you’re sticking it to a corporation by not tipping, but what you’re actually doing is fucking over a worker in a precarious position. Of fucking course they’re going to be pissed at you. You’re expecting a service and then not paying for it and the worker gets to go home with a docked paycheck because you wanted to make a statement instead of just staying home.

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  9. Ok, and my advice to you is to punch up and not down.

    Ok, and my advice to you is to punch up and not down.

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  10. Joke or real, I’m grabbing popcorn for this.

    Joke or real, I’m grabbing popcorn for this.

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  11. Totally agreed, while we are at it let’s end tipping.

    Totally agreed, while we are at it let’s end tipping.

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  12. OP, I agree with you. For the others that tip, why should it be a percentage of the bill? If the total for the one order is $40 and a a total for another order is $55 and the cost difference was based only on what was ordered and not number of people at a table, then why should the tip depend on theDevamını oku

    OP, I agree with you.

    For the others that tip, why should it be a percentage of the bill?

    If the total for the one order is $40 and a a total for another order is $55 and the cost difference was based only on what was ordered and not number of people at a table, then why should the tip depend on the cost of the meal? Why not on time and number of guests, that would make more sense.

    If I restaurant can’t pay people a living wage, it shouldn’t exist.

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  13. You have a point, but it speaks to the tip of the iceberg and not the whole thing. The problem in my opinion is that the law allows it. The law contemplates that customers will pay tips to supplement the below par wages. So tipping becomes part of the 'social contract' so to speak. It is a crap systDevamını oku

    You have a point, but it speaks to the tip of the iceberg and not the whole thing. The problem in my opinion is that the law allows it. The law contemplates that customers will pay tips to supplement the below par wages. So tipping becomes part of the ‘social contract’ so to speak. It is a crap system. I think it would be wise for people to seize this particular moment to demand at least that this two tiered system be abolished. While a single event of tipping may be a nice gesture, the institution of tipping is horrendous and ought to go away.

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  14. Yeah, well WI is allowed to pay servers under 3 dollars per hour. I consider that disgusting

    Yeah, well WI is allowed to pay servers under 3 dollars per hour. I consider that disgusting

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  15. I get your argument, I do. Tipping culture is based entirely out of classist, and later racist, practices. It's abhorrent and I applaud the restaurants that are slowly doing away with it. (OTOH, I revile the places that are adding it at the cash register for buying something at a counter) But at theDevamını oku

    I get your argument, I do. Tipping culture is based entirely out of classist, and later racist, practices. It’s abhorrent and I applaud the restaurants that are slowly doing away with it. (OTOH, I revile the places that are adding it at the cash register for buying something at a counter)

    But at the same time, Tipping is part of the social contract in the US. You should expect to tip when you go out to a traditional restaurant and factor it into your budget for the evening. The servers have every right to complain.

    Though I do wonder if this hostile response to tipping now (The horrible things written on the bills for example) is because you can’t go anywhere without asking to subsidize the owner. Ice cream shops, coffee shops, cookie shops, some fast food places all asking for tips now. It does get to be overwhelming and is probably causing a backlash on the traditionally tipped jobs

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  16. OP is missing the issue here in this thread, and it sucks how many people are agreeing. Yes, tipping is a shitty system, but until there is structural reform, your choice not to tip ONLY hurts the worker. The owner of the restaurant doesn't give a shit. The statement you're trying to make when you dDevamını oku

    OP is missing the issue here in this thread, and it sucks how many people are agreeing. Yes, tipping is a shitty system, but until there is structural reform, your choice not to tip ONLY hurts the worker. The owner of the restaurant doesn’t give a shit. The statement you’re trying to make when you don’t tip falls flat, and the only effect you’re having is simply making a less-than-minimum-wage worker’s life harder. FUCK that. A tipped worker is allowed to complain about shitty tippers AND the system of tipping. These things aren’t mutually exclusive.

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  17. I think the thoughts "it sucks that my poverty wages are being subsidized by the customer" and "it sucks that customers know this and still choose to do nothing" can exist concurrently

    I think the thoughts “it sucks that my poverty wages are being subsidized by the customer” and “it sucks that customers know this and still choose to do nothing” can exist concurrently

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  18. They’ve been brainwashed to believe it’s the customer’s job to pay their wages via tips.

    They’ve been brainwashed to believe it’s the customer’s job to pay their wages via tips.

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  19. It’s probably best if we only eat at the very few restaurants where they pay good wages and not depend on tips, or employee owned ones. Nobody needs to eat at restaurants. They would need to fail en masse for the system to change so that should be the goal.

    It’s probably best if we only eat at the very few restaurants where they pay good wages and not depend on tips, or employee owned ones. Nobody needs to eat at restaurants. They would need to fail en masse for the system to change so that should be the goal.

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  20. "we just shouldn't tip and it'll end" no don't dine in the establishment and maybe they'll start paying people a livable wage. I will never not tip if I have a service provided that I could do myself but don't want to do. I stand in solidarity with servers and I'm not going to screw them over to makDevamını oku

    “we just shouldn’t tip and it’ll end” no don’t dine in the establishment and maybe they’ll start paying people a livable wage. I will never not tip if I have a service provided that I could do myself but don’t want to do. I stand in solidarity with servers and I’m not going to screw them over to make a point to a corp that doesn’t give a care about them or us as a patron.

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  21. Its 100% unfair. Businesses should definitely be paying their employees a living wage. It's as if the business owner is stealing from us to pay their workers. Isn't that supposed to be the reason why the food costs so much? For overhead? So the owners are paying themselves basically. The diners whoDevamını oku

    Its 100% unfair. Businesses should definitely be paying their employees a living wage. It’s as if the business owner is stealing from us to pay their workers. Isn’t that supposed to be the reason why the food costs so much? For overhead? So the owners are paying themselves basically. The diners who are against tipping need to boycott imo. If someone decides to tip, then it should be an added perk. But unfortunately it’s not like that at the moment. And until it is, everyone knows this. Therefore, people that are against tipping should not eat at dine-in restaurants until this gets resolved. Eating there is a choice. People need their jobs. On one hand people are telling others they need to work, and when they do get work, they’re catching hell from the same people that just told them to get a job. Tipping is totally unfair, but that’s not the employee’s fault. People that dine in but refuse to tip are part of the problem. It just lets the businesses owners know that it’s okay to not pay their workers, and punishes the employees.

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  22. Tipping culture is a cancer on society. I hate it and higher wages should be enforced

    Tipping culture is a cancer on society. I hate it and higher wages should be enforced

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  23. The problem is you’ll always have people defending tips because some nights they make a lot more than they would hourly and don’t have it taxed. These people would refuse to work for minimum wage, or fight for higher wages than minimum. It’s always shame the customer and not the employer with them.Devamını oku

    The problem is you’ll always have people defending tips because some nights they make a lot more than they would hourly and don’t have it taxed. These people would refuse to work for minimum wage, or fight for higher wages than minimum. It’s always shame the customer and not the employer with them. Completely backwards

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  24. How in the hell did tipping even become a thing? It's shit, throw it out.

    How in the hell did tipping even become a thing? It’s shit, throw it out.

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  25. If they are posting in this specific subreddit complaining about low tips, I think the point they are trying to get across is that it’s crap they have to rely on customers tips (which are often bad) instead of a living wage.

    If they are posting in this specific subreddit complaining about low tips, I think the point they are trying to get across is that it’s crap they have to rely on customers tips (which are often bad) instead of a living wage.

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  26. Why do mods get to have their opinion pinned to the top of the post? Going a bit beyond the remit of moderating imo

    Why do mods get to have their opinion pinned to the top of the post? Going a bit beyond the remit of moderating imo

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  27. Yeah restaurant owners aren't entitled to what is basically free labor. When I was a server, my checks were literally pennies. Not even worth cashing. Literally ALL it is offset by taxes from what you reported making that day in tips.

    Yeah restaurant owners aren’t entitled to what is basically free labor. When I was a server, my checks were literally pennies. Not even worth cashing. Literally ALL it is offset by taxes from what you reported making that day in tips.

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  28. Tell your server you dont tip at the host stand enjoy having no service at that restaurant ever.

    Tell your server you dont tip at the host stand enjoy having no service at that restaurant ever.

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  29. Genuinely trying to understand, why should someone tip more then $20 on let’s say a $400 bill? Like if I spent less then an hour there and I tip you $20, you just made $20 an hour. Is that really so bad?

    Genuinely trying to understand, why should someone tip more then $20 on let’s say a $400 bill? Like if I spent less then an hour there and I tip you $20, you just made $20 an hour. Is that really so bad?

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  30. Tipping is one of the skeveist shit corporations have integrated into our culture. It completely changes the dynamic of who's mad at who. Servers hold disdain for customers who tip poorly cause their wage doesn't cover basic living costs. Customers hate the idea of giving more money to someone for sDevamını oku

    Tipping is one of the skeveist shit corporations have integrated into our culture. It completely changes the dynamic of who’s mad at who. Servers hold disdain for customers who tip poorly cause their wage doesn’t cover basic living costs. Customers hate the idea of giving more money to someone for simply doing what’s required of them. And corporations love the opportunity to pay their employees less and have the working man just trying to enjoy their meal subsidies the difference so the employee feels well paid. The reality is they’re not well paid, and the company is robbing the customer to make sure the server doesn’t realize that. With the defence of “it’s not me not paying you, it’s the customer” to continue their scummy practice.

    Point is tipping’s garbage and neither the server or customer should be putting up with it.

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  31. exactly! i tip, i always do, but its so aggravating seeing people complain about the tips they get when in reality they should be protesting against making less than minimum BECAUSE they get tips. i dont mind tipping, i dont, but when you see servers complaining, its like, you got the tip you got. eDevamını oku

    exactly! i tip, i always do, but its so aggravating seeing people complain about the tips they get when in reality they should be protesting against making less than minimum BECAUSE they get tips. i dont mind tipping, i dont, but when you see servers complaining, its like, you got the tip you got. everyone deserves a living wage and everyone deserves to go out to eat. we dont need to fight each other on that. as a customer i shouldn’t be expected to give my server a living wage, thats the businesses responsibility. i’ll tip, because its just that, a tip, but i’m not personally paying your bills, its your boss mans job to do that. “if you cant afford to tip dont go out” bullshit. people can do what they want with their hard earned cash. this is just another way to pit workers against each other. waiters need to be paid a living wage and then after that, they can pocket their tips i dont care. its just another way for people to say “oh why not get a real job then that doesnt rely on tips” serving IS a real job and they deserve to be pid fairly

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  32. I hate the concept of a tip. Why did tips even start? Who decided that tips exist in one industry, but not another. Pay your staff a decent wage, and then use the tip as an incentive to do a good job.

    I hate the concept of a tip. Why did tips even start? Who decided that tips exist in one industry, but not another. Pay your staff a decent wage, and then use the tip as an incentive to do a good job.

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  33. I noticed the comments did what the action of tipping did. We focused on the server vs the customer. Why don't we complain about the root of the issue? The mentality of tipping being normal is the excuse they use to keep the wages down. Instead of bitching about tips, bitch about your paycheck? YouDevamını oku

    I noticed the comments did what the action of tipping did. We focused on the server vs the customer. Why don’t we complain about the root of the issue? The mentality of tipping being normal is the excuse they use to keep the wages down. Instead of bitching about tips, bitch about your paycheck? You would feel less “scammed” or “ripped off” from your hard work you do when you know you are getting paid a decent wage.

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  34. What is even the point of being anti-work if you don’t seem to even care or have solidarity with fellow workers? Or workers in worse conditions than yourself? I agree that the tipping system is bullshit but if you still go out to eat and don’t tip workers you know are underpaid you are in no way stiDevamını oku

    What is even the point of being anti-work if you don’t seem to even care or have solidarity with fellow workers? Or workers in worse conditions than yourself? I agree that the tipping system is bullshit but if you still go out to eat and don’t tip workers you know are underpaid you are in no way sticking it to the business owner or to a corporation- you’re just screwing over another poor person while supporting an exploitive business AND patting yourself on the back for it pretending you are smarter and more radical than the “corporate shills”, as you keep saying, who tip. How is that a way to build worker power and solidarity? I tip because I believe everyone deserves to have what they need, obviously my tip isn’t going to do that but if I can take the pressure off just a tiny bit or help them have gas/ coffee/ weed/whatever money to get through til their next paycheck or buy dinner for their family that night than I am happy to tip, even if I too am an underpaid exploited worker. It’s been a few years since I was a tipped worker but I still remember the nights I didn’t know how I was gonna get home from work or how I was gonna eat the next day and someone’s tip got me there. That’s enough for me because to me being anti-work and anti-capitalist is first and foremost about a better quality of life for the poor and working class and it’s also difficult af to organize when you are hungry and exhausted and overworked all the time. It really seems like some of you don’t actually care about other people or workers you just care about yourselves or want something to rage about. The way you sound like bootstrappers makes me feel like if given the opportunity you would happily take the place of a ceo

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  35. I hate tipping, but I do it because its expected. For the people that are insistent on change but also to keep tipping until change comes, how does America/Canada begin to shift to an non-tipping culture without customers actively not tipping? Genuine question.

    I hate tipping, but I do it because its expected. For the people that are insistent on change but also to keep tipping until change comes, how does America/Canada begin to shift to an non-tipping culture without customers actively not tipping? Genuine question.

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  36. I think OP is referencing the increased reliance on tips by big companies to subsidize their wages. It goes far beyond the traditional tip at a dine-in restaurant. Tips are being asked for in drive-thru operations now. It’s absolute bullshit. The middle class is expected to be charitable to allow thDevamını oku

    I think OP is referencing the increased reliance on tips by big companies to subsidize their wages. It goes far beyond the traditional tip at a dine-in restaurant. Tips are being asked for in drive-thru operations now. It’s absolute bullshit. The middle class is expected to be charitable to allow the top players to pinch pennies. I wish I knew how to fight it effectively – I always tip at least 20% at a restaurant. Try to use cash so it doesn’t get taxed for the server. Fuck the wealth distribution and “trickle down” economics

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  37. Not sure how true it is, but a while back I was told if a server didn’t make a certain amount in tips at the end of their shift the restaurant was supposed to make up for it by paying them minimum wage. I think it’s dumb to do away with tips completely, but someone also shouldn’t be working for $2.4Devamını oku

    Not sure how true it is, but a while back I was told if a server didn’t make a certain amount in tips at the end of their shift the restaurant was supposed to make up for it by paying them minimum wage.

    I think it’s dumb to do away with tips completely, but someone also shouldn’t be working for $2.40 an hour.

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  38. Not American, so correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the whole $2.50 thing was that the tips brought their wage up to at least minimum wage. So what happens if no-one tips. I'm sure I've read previously that their employer must ensure they get minimum wage, so if there's insufficient tips, that the eDevamını oku

    Not American, so correct me if I’m wrong. I thought the whole $2.50 thing was that the tips brought their wage up to at least minimum wage.

    So what happens if no-one tips. I’m sure I’ve read previously that their employer must ensure they get minimum wage, so if there’s insufficient tips, that the employer makes up the difference. So surely, the answer isn’t to not patronise these establishments, but instead, all refuse to tip, so the employer has to keep paying loads extra to their staff.

    Either their business model is sound or its not.

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  39. My issue with tipping….it’s set by the cost of the bill. The waitstaff at a cheap restaurant deserves less money than the waitstaff at an expensive place?

    My issue with tipping….it’s set by the cost of the bill.
    The waitstaff at a cheap restaurant deserves less money than the waitstaff at an expensive place?

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  40. Consider: paying servers a living wage, *but also tipping them if they made your experience memorable*, be it by making sure the kitchen followed each of your 15 modifications to your entree or by recommending a dish to your indecisive dinner guest that they ended up loving.

    Consider: paying servers a living wage, *but also tipping them if they made your experience memorable*, be it by making sure the kitchen followed each of your 15 modifications to your entree or by recommending a dish to your indecisive dinner guest that they ended up loving.

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  41. Servers shouldn’t need to get tips. But, without tips they make even more no where near enough. And already many things that are too much aren’t near enough. This is still the problem. Go to work. Maybe get 2 weeks off a year. Die. And also ///serving/// is still something that pisses me off. But thDevamını oku

    Servers shouldn’t need to get tips. But, without tips they make even more no where near enough. And already many things that are too much aren’t near enough.
    This is still the problem.
    Go to work. Maybe get 2 weeks off a year. Die.

    And also ///serving/// is still something that pisses me off.
    But that’s the anti work in me — I guess the choice to do a thing is different but when someone needs money. As many do b/c of capitalism and keeping people under wealth wise —- it makes me grumbly

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