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As the DVD turns 25, why people still love collecting them — even with a shelf life

As the DVD turns 25, why people still love collecting them — even with a shelf life

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  1. I’ve got pressed CD’s going back to 1985 that work fine. Here are some archival tests I’ve done with optical medial.

    https://daniel-d-teoli-jr-archival-collection-ii.home.blog/2019/10/23/nothing-can-compare-to-the-m-disk-when-it-comes-to-digital-archiving/

    Commercially pressed DVD’s seem to outlast commercially pressed Blu-ray discs. But if you got some of the old Japan made Verbatim Blu-ray discs they hold up excellent in stress tests. The cheap BD-R are poor, similar to home made DVD.

    [https://daniel-d-teoli-jr-archival-collection-ii.home.blog/2021/09/06/blu-ray-discs-they-are-not-all-the-same/](https://daniel-d-teoli-jr-archival-collection-ii.home.blog/2021/09/06/blu-ray-discs-they-are-not-all-the-same/)

    Tests on SD flash cards…

    [https://daniel-d-teoli-jr-archival-collection-ii.home.blog/2021/08/02/sd-card-report/](https://daniel-d-teoli-jr-archival-collection-ii.home.blog/2021/08/02/sd-card-report/)

    I also have a 2 year hot cold HDD stress test at the website.

  2. I find the newer DVD’s have even shorter s shelf life

    in fact they’re BAD on the shelf when you buy them

    ????

  3. Ask the HD DVD community how they feel about Warner Brothers discs. (Hint: the Cinram facility produced discs for WB that are nearly all disc rotted at this point.)

  4. Waste of space. I had over 300 dvds that sat in a closet for years since I had ripped them all. I sold them all on ebay in a lot…maybe he bought them?

  5. DVDs weren’t made to be archival copies. They cost 25 cents to make.

  6. Am I too old for remembering the time that I went into my local video store, asked if they had any DVDs in yet, lady asks me what’s a DVD, I explain, and she says “oh, no, don’t worry, those things won’t catch on, same thing happened to the laserdiscs”…?

  7. The CD-Rs with the dark blue or dark green dyes were better than the ones with the very pale blue dye. I still have the very first CD-R I burned, which has dark blue dye with gold plating instead of aluminum.

    How good is that disc? So good that a Hitachi 1x CD-ROM (the model where the whole drive mechanism popped out and a clamshell lid lifted) which was supposedly incapable of reading CD-R had no problem reading it.

    I should find that disc and see if it’s still readable.

  8. Well, you can point at your “physical licence” and play the backup from your NAS. No clue about all jurisdictions worldwide but at least here in Germany that is a perfectly fine thing to do.
    And if you are a movie nerd you have a nice looking shelf with all these movies.

  9. “Move it over to Flash”? What the actual f… did that article just say people should archive data onto flash memory? DVD lifespans may be finite, but flash storage is far less than that and silent data corruption will absolutely be a thing.

  10. My oldest DVD is Tin Cup and I was gifted it in 1999 before I even had a DVD player. It still works. My first DVD player was a PS2. I started collecting DVDs shortly after. I’ve probably got 400+ however many my wife brought when she moved in. And then there’s the blu-rays.

  11. I remember when DVDs first came out. It was an anime collectors dream. We could finally get the sub and dub without buying it twice.

  12. Man I remember when I got my first doovde player. Went great with my joovc lcd tiv.

  13. I havent bought a lot of DVD in my life, most were post 2000, but man, so many series getting off streaming, or worse, splitted to another one i dont have an account on.

    Netflix lost a LOT of stuff over the years.

  14. I have roughly that many DVDs. Collected from about the year 2000 and just never got rid of any of them.

    Thought about ripping them, but honestly, it took me like 2 weeks to just download better copies. Much less work, too. I have no regrets.

  15. Everything has a shelf life. Deal with it early enough in life and you can start enjoying life while it lasts.

  16. If you don’t own a hard copy, you don’t own it. Every streaming service is a gamble and you could be left with nothing in one millisecond.

  17. It’s nice to have a physical object that you can hold in your hands and actually own. Same could be said about books.

  18. > **While DVDs and Blu-rays could have an average lifespan of 10 to 20 years,** some manufacturers, like Sony, say […]

    emphasis added.

    Given that the article is ostensibly making a point about DVD shelf life you’d think it wouldn’t just throw out a random, and seemingly completely wrong, factoid like this without citing a source.

    They even have the word “could” in there, meaning even whoever they got this “fact” from was unwilling to stand by it.

  19. I’ve been collecting dvds and blurays for as long as this guy and have been ripping them since a few years ago to put on my NAS. While they still play perfectly well on a physical player, the digital rips do suffer from many skips. Of course this is anecdotal evidence and perhaps a better DVD player that hasn’t been ripping thousands of discs may achieve a better result, but my ripping results are quite disappointing and therefore I’m also holding on to my physical collection.

  20. I disagree with the flash recommendation. I hear that they are not shelf stable. I think it’s because they work by trapping electrons. If the flash isn’t refreshed those electrons will fade with time.

    If you want to store data on optical media I would use a combination of PAR2 and DVDisaster. These work on media with no DRM on them.

  21. You could probably get half of his collection at any thrift store for about a 1000 dollars/euros

  22. Does anyone know of a good DVD emulator for ripped extra features?

    Like once I rip the DVD, can I replay it digitally as though I had it in the DVD player?

  23. >But will these discs last the test of time? According to research published by the Canadian Conservation Institute in 2010 and revised in 2019, the average lifespan of a DVD or Blu-ray is between 10 to 20 years

    Huh, let’s look at that research.

    >Longevity of Recordable CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays — Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) Notes 19/1

    Can people please stop confusing recordable media for pressed media???

    However their citation then cites another paper from 2018 that did serious testing on BluRay recordables as storage, which while again, recordable, I’d like to read but I can’t find it not behind a paywall. 🙁

  24. As sketchy as this may seem it will indeed rip all of those dvds

    https://www.makemkv.com/
    Or https://handbrake.fr/

    I have had better success with make mkv tho

  25. Well, DVDs can be ripped, so it doesn’t matter too much.

  26. Legal-schmegal, anyone who buys that many DVDs without ripping them is a fool IMO.

  27. The article seems to conflate the shelf life of burned DVDs vs stamped (pressed?) commercial ones