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An open letter against Apple’s new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning

An open letter against Apple’s new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning

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  1. This whole discussion just reminds me of the government consensus that is growing larger every day;


    Not just in US, but in every country it grows bigger. Is this due to too high taxes? I mean, we spend billions of billions of dollars on pointing the sword at our citizens, police fbi cia, all are spending ridiculous amounts on control, security and scanning of the citizens. And how well spent is that money, how many _real_ crimes are stopped?

  2. yeah… more reason to use a foss operating system

  3. What are the risks of false positives since that would be a life destroying accusation?

    It sounds good in respect to doing more to prevent and catch child predators, but again how is it being identified?

  4. If you think some open letter is going to do a damned thing then you’re a fucking idiot.

    Apple **don’t give a shit** about technology, about privacy, about you. All they want is **COMPLETE CONTROL**.

    Fact is – if you touch anything Apple then you’re part of the problem. Apple have always treated the technology industry with disdain. How many have they abused with court cases and absurd patent claims.

    Anybody that bought into Apple and now bitching about this shit *now* are out of their minds stupid.

  5. Even in a perfect world where Apple is 100% good, governments are 100% good and the people in general does not abuse the system by intentionally sending CP photos to their enemies, there’s going to be false positives and people are gonna get swatted at Apple’s request.

  6. So, we’ve gone from [won’t someone think of the children](https://youtu.be/3jFqhjaGh30) to 9-11 to [won’t someone think of the children ](https://youtu.be/3jFqhjaGh30) to COVID to [won’t someone think of the children](https://youtu.be/3jFqhjaGh30)?

  7. I praise the effort and the cause but not the invasion of privacy. Unfortunately, you leave this open and abuse follows eventually. I don’t even want a possibility to exist out there.

  8. I’ve never had a problem with Apple’s antics because I recognized the danger of a walled garden and stayed away. Remember The Fappening? Apple photo backup got hacked and many people realized for the first time that Apple keeps a copy of every picture you take. But people didn’t learn, and now this: AI scanning your photos on your phone before they’re backed up to The Cloud. Anyone who bought any Apple product after The Fappening has only themselves to blame.

  9. I have seen phones going from being very useful practical devices providing huge productivity benefits to becoming time and money sinks. I went from owning an iPhone to owning a moto android phone. I got an used iPhone X to do photography on the move. It made beautiful photographs and videos but too yellow and not true to color. I ended up returning it and that was that. I own macbook pro which is an incredible device so I frequent the Apple store to look for my next machine.

    Apple laptops have become worse by removing useful things like usb ports and macsafes for the sake of adding idiotic gimmicks. My next machine may not be an apple.

  10. Didn’t Apple have a spat with Facebook about something similar to this?

  11. This reminds me of a plot form a specific movie that was inspired by real life events that turned Julius Casar into the Senate…

    “The remaining Jedi will be hunted down and defeated! Any collaborators will suffer the same fate. These have been trying times, but we have passed the test. The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger. The war is over. The Separatists have been defeated, and the Jedi rebellion has been foiled. We stand on the threshold of a new beginning. In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secure society!”

  12. This is a good time to mention two rules that everyone should know:
    Rule no 1 for data storage:
    All net-connected devices (phones, computers, IOT) must be considered unsafe (ie. publically accessible)
    Rule no. 1 for encryption:
    Encryption/decryption must be done on a separate, off-line device.

  13. Damn. I like(d) Apple specifically because of how privacy respecting they are (at least in the west). This is the kind of thing that would make me leave their platform completely. I really hope they go back on this…

  14. So when is someone going to offer us a Linux based phone! I’ll throw this apple phone in the water right now

  15. If it’s a black box scanning illegal stuff that’s also immoral, what else is it fucking doing?

    Because it’s a black box, you have no idea and never will.

  16. I do not use Apple, but with whats going on with Apple and Microsoft. Linux is looking better and better. The only thing holding me back is gaming. I need to know I can play more or less any game that comes out.

  17. I’d guess, based on the behavior of windows and windows defender, that microsoft is already doing this basic thing, though it probably isn’t pedophilia-targeted.

    I think the main goal of this ($$) is copyright enforcement. To a lesser extent, malware and cybercrime in general.

    The pedophilia thing sounds like a candy coating PR spin. I mean, how can you be against catching pedophiles?

  18. The part I’m most interested in is everything I’ve read says they plan to scan encrypted messages as well which means the encryption clearly doesn’t work.

  19. I dont get why people with Apple devices are fine with all photos to be uploaded to iCloud….its owned by Apple and so they can do shit like this whenever they want.

    I use Google Photos on my Android but always turn off auto uploads.

  20. I read about this yesterday. Normalizing data scanning by propping it up against child abuse is absurd. It’s how they get what they want. It’s just an excuse to get more of your data without asking you. “Oh by the way, we are going to scan your photos without your permission but only to run checks for child abuse”. My ass.

    This will lead to more corporate algorithms for ways to serve you ads to make you spend money in their favor just like Facebook does with pixel tracking.